Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:56:48 -0400 From: Daniel Perry Lathrop To: Axel Brandenburg Subject: Re: MRI-MHD experiments Dear Axel, I've just e-mailed both of them. There is one tiff image and one larger (3.5 Mb) movie at http://complex.umd.edu/~dpl/mri That is the simplest state, more complicated states exist at higher applied field. The experimental background state probably does not have z invariance, unlike their paper. I still think this should preclude axisymmetric bifurcations, but not continuous axisymmetric changes with parameter. Yes, it seems the low Pm case is still to be done. Our system: Concentric spheres. radius ratio 1/3. Inner radius 0.05 m, outer radius 0.15 m inner sphere copper (0.04 m^2/s mag. diff.) sodium at 110 deg C (0.089 m^2/s mag. diff.) Axial field strength 0 to .2 T Rotation rates 2.5 to 40 RPS Pm ~ 10^-5 Density of sodium 930 kg/m^3. The primary bifurcation seems to a m=1 rotating pattern, at about v_A l/eta = 1. yours dpl